Thursday, December 28, 2006

CNG cars in Kansas city

I don't know if you've noticed, but many of the cars that belong to the city run on compressed natural gas. I happend to be behind one on the highway (actually, it was being dragged on the back of a tow truck, but nevermind) and it suddenly occured to me that here was a completely clean-running, alternative fuel vehicle right in front of me. It was sort of a "They do exist!" moment, like when Santa and the M&M's saw each other in that old commercial--though I doubt the car was surprised by my existence. Frankly, I don't think it noticed. But I digress.

Anyway, ever since then I had it in my mind that I was going to call the Water Services Department (who's name was on the side of the car, a Civic GX) and talk to their fleet manager to find out what they did with their old CNG cars. Days and days later, I finally got around to getting ahold of the person I needed to talk to, who, as it turned out, actually was in charge of purchasing the cars for the whole city. I told him my intentions, that I was an environmentally-aware citizen and was interested in getting ahold of a used CNG vehicle, and he was very friendly. He told me that the old cars get sent to auction, and although he couldn't tell me the name of the auction company off the top of his head, he did tell me that, as a citizen, owning a car that runs on natural gas wouldn't be very efficient in this city. This is because, as he said, he was only aware of one CNG filling station, and that was in Overland Park. Living in Gladstone as I do, that is clearly what we in the industry call "a little out of the way."

He said the only alternative, if I was set on CNG, would be to install a compressor in my home and compress my own natural gas (well, not my natural gas, the gas coming into my home). He said doing this would require some retrofitting of the car in order to make the fuelling process work, and that it could get sort of expensive. I thanked him for his time and hung up and pretty much put away the idea of having a CNG car in the near future.

CNG cars are great because they are completely emissions free, but they do have their drawbacks. Obviously I've already hit on one of the major ones, if not the biggest one. Also, they tend to get the same or less fuel-efficiency than their gasoline-based counterparts, and when it costs about the same to fill the tank as it does for gasoline, really it's a wash at best. Pretty much the main benefit to driving a CNG car, as far as I can tell, is being able to tour around with the knowledge that you are contributing nothing to global warming, climate change, the uglification of the air...whatever you want to call it.

So I guess, since I can't have a Civic GX, I'll just have to go back to not having a Civic Hybrid. Sigh.

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Bobby,

Have you done any research into WVO (waste vegetable oil) burning diesel cars? I own a '01 VW Golf TDI that I retrofitted to run on both diesel fuel and filtered, waste vegetable oil. It has many environmental advantages such as being non-toxic (heck, it's vegetable oil, you can eat it), CO2 emmissions are carbon neutral, you're re-using a waste product, and it's FREE. Just get hooked up with one or more of your favorite restaurants and they'll probably be happy to give you their used fryer oil as they are probably paying a company to dispose of it for them. There are several companies that make the conversion kits, such as, http://www.goldenfuelsystems.com or http://www.greasecar.com .

Just a thought.

Doug

Bobby Bierley said...

Doug,

What a great idea! I had heard of vegetable oil cars before, but I think when all this stuff about ethanol and corn-oil came out I got confused and forgot that there are cars out there that run on grease. I checked out those sites and definitely want one of my own. Wish I could somehow convert my Scion xB, because I love that car, but I would probably go with a VW, as well. Although there is a Mini Cooper that runs on diesel now, and I've always had a soft spot for them...Anyway, I'm going to do some more research into this. So far I can't find anyone in the area that is selling or converting them. Tell me about your experience with your car. How long ago did you convert it, did you do it yourself, and what has life been like for you since? Thanks again for the great tip!

Anonymous said...

I have a Frybrid kit that's ready to be installed in a 1987 Mercedes-Benz, plus a Kansas City oil source and a few hundred gallons of vegetable oil. However, we've decided not to go through with the conversion because it's too difficult to fill the tank with oil on a weekly basis without a garage or driveway. That being said, if anyone is interested in our ready-made set of car, kit and oil+source, let's talk.

Anonymous said...

This idea is necessary just by the way

Anonymous said...

The show must go on.

Anonymous said...

Who works on these cars in the KC area. That really knows what to do?
Thanks Keith

Alternative Fuel said...

The driving range of NGVs generally is less than that of comparable gasoline- and diesel-fueled vehicles because of the lower energy content of natural gas. Extra storage tanks can increase range, but the additional weight may displace payload capacity. NGV horsepower, acceleration, and cruise speed are comparable with those of an equivalent conventionally fueled vehicle.

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